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3 August 2004, 9:30 am Berlin
hi angelique, hi liesbeth,
i remember (because i feel it again now) from the time before i reduced
drinking, to have this strange “morning depression”. its not only a hangover — its
is more a mental state already — it seems the body affects the mind in
a causal/direct way, which i guess spinoza would deny. he says that there is
no causal-relation between body and mind. for him it is parallel but not causal.
do you or how do see a relation between body and mind?
xoxx and ahoi
elke
3 August 2004, 2:15 pm Berlin
hi angelique, hi liesbeth,
today is the sixth day of our cooperation. i find it a really interesting
project. i totally agree in what you said that your mind decides which
steps you are doing
to take life in a direction that then affects your body. strange was that i
(just by trying to eat what you eat) felt a very strong connection to
you both from
the first day on — even though i don’t know you. these ideas of how
we live, of self-technics, of cooperations with people we don’t really
know are ethic-political statements to me. to the investigation on women’s
bodies: women always have been very sensitive to their bodies —this is
somehow their “real-estate”, their “property” (to sell – i
don’t see this (only) in a feminist way). more interesting to me is that
one who did this investigation – the state and its institutions – the
health care centers. taking care of life and defining what is normal – specially
in women’s life... but although what you said is interestingthat the women
never have the “right” idea about how big or thin they are – its
really difficult to be “normal”.
actually to me the food we eat is getting to be too much - especially the breakfast
and the 100 grams cheese in the night... i don’t know why now, it wasn't
in the beginning – maybe i was scared that i would not get enough, cause
you are skinny – and this fear made me happy about that much food.
hope you doing well,
your hungover,
elke
3 Augst
2004 6:38 pm Berlin
hi angelique, hi liesbeth,
i believe you.
ahoi,
elke
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3 August 2004 12:00 pm Amsterdam
Hello Elke
as for us, we both can't see body and mind separately, how you appreciate
your body or not is in strong relationship with your mind. In Holland
they did an
interesting investigation in how women appreciate their bodies and if there
was a difference in anorexic women, normal-size-women and too fat women;
the result was that only the anorexic women had a right image of
how fat or skinny
their body was. All other women tended to think that they were thinner than
they actually were. But if I look at ourselves then? I know how unconsiously
your mind effects your body; we have a lot of abnormalities in our blood
which doctors can't find a reason for but I have the feeling it has
something to
do with our brains. Also, A. was stopped by the police one time when driving
our mum's car for an alcohol test and we immediately thought we had a problem
because she had drunk at least 4 glasses of wine. A. passed the test negative,
which came as a completely surprise to the police! Somehow A. thinks that
she could control her breath by concentrating very hard without doing
that on purpose.
But for me the evident reason is that being a twin you really have to learn
that you are a different person because your mind is completely different
than your sister’s and it is your mind thatdecides which steps you are going
to take in life thatwill effect your body.
Yesterday was again the same: for lunch we had cold-cucumber soup and for
dinner; 60 grams salmon with 1/2 onion baked in mustard and oil, in the oven,
with
baked courgette with 10 roasted pine-nuts, 1 small potato. Everything else
was the same.
Speak to you tomorrow
bye!
l.a
3 August
2004, 5:02 pm Amsterdam
hello Elke
I think by writing everything down that we eat I actually get a better overview
each day about the real amount, but we certainly eat the amount I have written
to you – by
the way: we are also curious how you look, can you send us an image?
cheers
l.a
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